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December 19, 2007

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don lewis

You lost me at DARJEELING....and stabbed me in the eye with MARGOT.

I thought we were close maaaan...simpatico...then, this?

don lewis

p.s. "Smiley" and "Aqua Team Hunger Force??" Duuuude....is there something you want to tell us maaaan. Is Dave not here...or there? Is "Pineapple Express" your most awaited film for 2008?

jlichman

fun story:
early morning NYC screening of Aqua Teen. The only people at Magno are me, random guy...and coming in as the lights dim, Peter Travers. While cracking up at the opening animation, I look over and find Travers tearing through an 80-page loose leaf notebook as if we were never being shown this film again.

What does it mean? Who knows considering his half-assed average review of the flick, but damned if he didn't transcribe the entire film.

I only hope ATHF gets the Oscar nod, if only for the ending. And how incredibly weird it was.

...where was I? Challenging your LOL-photo-ness? Oh, I think I was. Hm.

Mark J

Interesting choices Glenn. I would have ranked Assassination of Jesse James higher though. That was an astonishing piece of filmmaking, especially in the current studio climate. A shame you didn't have room for The Bourne Ultimatum either. Although it was overpraised on release it is still the best action film since, well, The Bourne Supremacy in 2004.

vadim

Whoever did the HTML or whatever on this needs to close the bold tag after the #10 movie. Just saying.

God bless you for not kowtowing to everyone who said Werner misfired. How dare they. But where did your beloved Astree and Celadon go? Down the undistributed sinkhole? Sigh. That shouldn't have happened.

bill

I was relatively disappointed in "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead". I liked it, but I thought by the end it was all a bit "much", if you know what I mean, and maybe you don't. However, Hoffman deserves every bit of praise for that performance he's received so far, and probably more. Really astonishing.

"Zodiac", on the other hand, knocked me out. I've never been a member of the Fincher Cult, but I'll be damned if now I'm not considering sending in my application and $10 membership fee.

Glenn Kenny

Boldness fixed, Vadim...and yes, "Astree" did wind up in the undistributed sinkhole. I actually hear tell it may not stay undistributed and thus hold out hope to put it on next year's list, where the new Rivette already has an assured place...

Mike De Luca

Thanks, Glenn, for recognizing "The Darjeeling Limited". Wes Anderson should not be tied to the wheel for developing a unique and lovely comic style of his own. And outside of "The Ultimate Badass"(have not seen "There Will Be Blood") no characters have engaged me this year quite like the Whitman Brothers. Francis, with his wraps and his itineraries, Little Jack with his insistence his works are only "fiction", and Peter, with his needy hold on his father's possessions. And I will say this: Adrien Brody has the best tragic/comic cinema face since Buster Keaton. There, I said it. Haters, fuck off.

Randy Byers

I think I'm going to get a Haters, Fuck Off tattoo. Then I'm going to go see ACROSS THE UNIVERSE for the fourth time.

Andrew

As I haven't had the chance yet to see "There Will Be Blood", i'd have to bump No Country to number 1. Though I fully expect to like "Blood". Kudos on the inclusion of Hot Fuzz.

Ryland Walker Knight

I just saw _Stellet Licht_ (gorgeous) and I thought I remembered you liking it. Does it fall in the same unreleased sinkhole (for now?) as does the Rivette picture? Or just the same fate as _Syndromes_?

Otherwise, _Jesse James_ and a few other choices aside, pretty cool list, dude. You know I'm with you on _TWBB_, _Ratatouille_ and _Darjeeling_. It's funny PTA gave us a big ole pile of bloody steak to chew on while WA gave us one of his typical dim sum (sweet lime?) delights. Maybe, if I start working on my year-end stuff, I can come up with a better analogy. (I mean, even outside their 2007 films both being their fifth offerings, it sorta makes sense to compare and contrast these two _auteurs_, right?) Regardless, this _was_ quite the year for pictures, wasn't it? Doesn't that indieWIRE list come out today?

tuck

Glenn -- why is it that critics (for the most part) laud Anderson when he is making the same movie over and over again? And even worse, he's shrinking his palette with each film. Isn't it the duty of the critic to call upon someone with Anderson's considerable talent to branch out, to try something new, or at the very least expand his artistic horizon? As now, he's really no more than the Michael Bay of twee.

To this viewer, his movies have gotten progressively colder and colder, and progressively more superficial. What you see as detachment I do see as a disconnect, as someone far more interested in the neat packaging of his characters' life, than letting the ragged edges show through.

Of course, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but I wouldn't mind hearing you address the idea of critic as a possible agent of change: should the critic be satisfied with a good film that doesn't seem to break any new ground for the artist (especially if the artist is as considerably talented as Anderson) or does the critic urge the artist upward, even if that means a slip-up, or a bomb, as perceived by the public?

Andrew

Tuck, I totally agree. I'm still waiting for Anderson to blow my mind with something different, something new.

Eric

THERE WILL BE BLOOD is my most anticipated film for this year. JUNO is a close second and SWEENEY TODD rounds that out. I also wanna see MARGOT AT THE WEDDING and THE SAVAGES... For me the best film of 2007 thus far is BLACK SNAKE MOAN.

bill

Tuck and Andrew - Anderson IS something different and new. Not only that, I've never been able to figure out how "The Life Aquatic" is just the same old, same old, even within the narrow context of Anderson's other films. Does someone want to explain how that strange deep sea adventure/comedy/tragedy loosely inspired by Jacques Cousteau and David Bowie is somehow ordinary?

Eric - I also loved "Black Snake Moan". That's in my top ten, no question.

don lewis

I love Wes Anderson and I'm all for his "style," but he shows no growth as a filmmaker and not just visually. I'm not even saying he "makes the same film" over and over....he's just stuck in this creepy hipster adolescence. I really wanted to like (hell, I wanted to LOVE) DARJEELING LIMITED, but it was utterly underwhelming and too boringly detached for my tastes. "I lost mine" indeed.

Glenn Kenny

I know that neither myself nor Mr. DeLuca are going to change the minds of any W. Anderson/"Darjeeling" haters, but since we're arguing here, no, I don't think it's the critic's responsibility or function to attempt to prod "artistic growth"... and could one of you fans of "artistic growth" please give me a working definition of it, with examples? How did Bresson, or Tarkovsky, "grow" as an artist over the course of a career? Was "The Princess Casamassima," Henry James' stab at a Joseph Conrad novel and an attempt to break out of his little corner—a labor of "artistic growth"!—really such a good idea? An artist does what an artist does, and each work has to be judged not just for where it falls in that artist's body of work but what it actually is. You don't like Wes Anderson, fine. But thinking he's going to make something that you'll like better than his current work by strapping a 16mm camera to his shoulder and strolling into a steel mill, say, is just self delusional.

And by the way, here are two words that absolutely refute the whole idea of "artistic growth:"
The Ramones.

Aaron Aradillas

Yeah, but you have to admit some of that mid-to-late '80s Ramones was a little spotty.

Joel

First of all, I enjoy Casamassima as much or more than I enjoy The Secret Agent (it's Dostoevsky as well as Conrad). Secondly, Darjeeling does represent some artistic growth. I like how Anderson can make the Whitmans' grief plain and relatable while still making them into complete jerks, something he obviously learned from Malle. Also, he composes the frame around figures of three this time (a motif that goes down to a mom who worships the trinity), not single figures in a wide frame. The long takes are gorgeous and more fluid than in any of his other films, especially the one that introduces us to the village after the boy has drowned, something that I think the auteurists among you might slobber over. It's more of the "same," but only superficially. I'm with the anti-haters contingent on this. Good list.

Glenn Kenny

Thanks Joel. Although I have to admit it feels odd to get validated and have my bluff called simultaneously...

Joel

What bluff? Lots of people seem to dislike that book, and it's hardly a masterpiece on par with The Aspern Papers (my favorite). It's more defensible to dismiss that novel, I think, than to dismiss the Anderson movie, which is easily the director's best--a perfection of his style rather than a repetition. In my opinion, he got right here what he failed to do in Tenenbaums. The James novel, by contrast, was just a freakish and very entertaining anomaly.

don lewis

I'm not asking Anderson to like, change the landscape of cinema, but come on now. He's like a grown man doing a puppet show and the best part of putting on a puppet show is making the puppets, creating the backdrop and thinking about what will be funny to say. By the time you put on the show, all the fun is out of it.

Plus several scenes in DARJEELING really reminded me how limited Anderson is in terms of understanding people. The first was the Schwartzman sex scene. NOBODY, especially a character who is a cad (or, slut), spits in their hand and shoves it up a girls dress to get her going. That is a prime example of a person who knows nothing about sex. It reminded me of something you'd see in an 80's teen comedy where the teenage boy has to learn about sex because he's doing it wrong.

The second was the "death" scene. It was handled like a kid playing with dolls. No feeling, no power....just raw actions without realistic feeling consequences.

That being said, I LOVE LIFE AQUATIC and Anderson's other films as well. I just think the guy is in love with his production design and could give a shit about his characters. And that's a problem.

Now can you defend MARGOT AT THE WEDDING, please? I'm all for lovingly hating characters onscreen, but I hated hated those characters and, like Anderson (Baumbach's buddy ironically) Baumbach hates them too.

Kirsten

Glenn, I could go on about picking Margot At The Wedding is one of the craziest things I have ever seen, but since you put both Control and Joe Strummer on a list with Sweeney Todd and Killer Of Sheep, I'll let it slide.
No I won't. Margot was hateful, and Baumbach disappointed me like no one else this year.
And Darjeeling was not an awful movie, just mediocre. It was no Rushmore, but really, what is?

JWarthen

Am too far in the provinces to have access to the year-end favorites. But no film on your list made me smile harder than either PAPRIKA or LINDA LINDA LINDA. And MICHAEL CLAYTON was as perfectly realized an entertainment as my Cineplex has brought me. Casey Affleck gets my acting award (for ASSASSINATION...) at least until I can see Daniel Day-Lewis.

Steve

Two words re Anderson's lack of 'growth' as a filmmaker:

flashback scene.

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