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February 22, 2008

Comments

Ti Alan Chase

If you can argue that two films SHOULD tie for best picture (which I agree with), would you also argue that there are some years when NO film should win best picture?

Owain Wilson

Referring back to people moaning about certain populist films winning Best Picture, I personally can't stand it when that happens.

Since when is LA Confidential a better film than Titanic? Is it because its characters talk quietly to each other and frown a lot? LA Confidential has got stuff Titanic couldn't match, but it goes the other way, too.

Titanic is an absolutely amazing film - exactly the kind of film movie lovers always complained was not being made anymore. It's an experience, an astonishing achievement, and is as entitled to win Best Picture as any other film.

Don't get me started on the miserable old goats who can't believe Taxi Driver was beaten by Rocky.

I'd love to comment on this years nominees, but my local cinema here in the UK still hasn't shown There Will Be Blood.

Ryland Walker Knight

I want a big (say, 42-inch) TV. And a blu-ray player. Modest goals for 2008, right?

Once I make those, um, thousands(?) of dollars a year, as I'm so sure I'll do (nah right) given I'll be a college graduate (finally) by summertime, maybe I can buy those things. Until then, I better go catch _TWBB_ in a theatre before it loses (I bet on _Juno_ in our pool) and gets shunted out of theatres real quick. No, I don't think a Best Actor nod will sustain its release longer than a week or two. (Why am I even playing this prognostication game? Don't I have homework to read/write? Why do the Oscars suck in those of us who say they don't even really care? Do I really care? Weird.)

Glenn Kenny

Have faith, young Ryland; some day all this could be yours.

And if it's any consolation, I still rent.

Also: I think a combination of the Best Actor nod and—I hate to say it—the unwitting catchphrase, may keep "Blood" in theaters a bit longer than you believe. Of course I'm known as an optimist in these respects...but still, I didn't see "No Country"'s B.O. bonanza coming...

oakling

Huzzah for calling American Beauty like it is, and for juxtaposing "Shakespeare in Love" (with its fabulous crossddressing) and "queer."

I'll give Juno a little more credit - besides being spunky and sweet, it's also the first move in what will hopefully be a long tradition of women writing and starring in the kind of "Freaks and Geeks"-alumned movies that have previously been so thoroughly a "male genre".

Arion Berger

Aw, oakling. I'm all blushy.

And Owain, you're dead right. And since when is "X example of worthy" anything better than "Y example" of the same thing? Awards are bogus; bar-fueled arguments about Dashiell Hammett versus Camus are bogus (this happened in my hearing; maybe your bars -- pubs -- are different); apples and oranges are both fruits, and so what? It goes both ways, as you say, all across the board. But if we're buying into the premise of the Oscars at all, we have to talk about worthiness as if Juno and There Will Be Blood are competing on some kind of level playing field. The convergence of quality and box office Godzillaness that was Titanic may not be seen again in our lifetimes, but that didn't stop it from being up against films it had nothing to do with. Nature of the Oscar beast, alas.

Ray

I'm completely with Glenn Kenny on this one. Both films are magnificent in their own ways--they're superficially comparable, but each is unique--and both are entirely deserving of the Best Picture award. It's just chance that these two extraordinary movies came out at the same time and have to compete with each other.

Now, could this mean that the two will split the vote, and Juno will walk away with the award? Worse things have happened, I guess.

Michael

I couldn't agree more with Glenn. BLOOD & COUNTRY should tie. They're both glittering examples of innovative cinema with a distinct narrative, performances to beat the band, cinematography that holds the audience still and masterful scores.Both directors are at the top of their game using every inch of the screen to illustrate their visions and both directors are due for credit. It's a great thing to watch films like this. For every second of BLOOD, Anderson never forget his audience and for every second of COUNTRY, you could feel how much those Coen boys were enjoying the construction process of their extraordinary thriller. Devastated as I was (when is the Academy going to learn it doesn't matter what time of the year a film is released?)that ZODIAC didn't make it to the final round (just finished watching the director's cut and once again marvelled at the artistry of Fincher's genius), if it had, well...menage a trois anyone? Just a thought, perhaps JESSE JAMES was shut out because two westerns were enough?

Glenn Kenny

If 'Zodiac' had made the final round...well, Michael, I love the film, but I'm not sure I would have been as torn as you, and it looks unkind of me to say why, but the fact is after watching it a couple times I agree with Kent Jones that Gyllenhal is the picture's weak link. He's a fine actor who was wrong for the part, essentially. I imagine you disagree. But you are right, it's a remarkalby strong film and I'm saying for the gazillionth time that its snub from the Academy is near criminal...

As is the snub for "Jesse James." But I don't think its Western component did it in. No, more like "too long," "too subtle," "too obscure" combined with all kinds of rumors about its shaping, the implication it was some kind of Pitt anti-vanity project, etcetera. I think it's great, and I think it's gonna get rediscovered at some point by an at least slightly wider audience.

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